Indian History from the CIA Investigated informations and reference - On Aryan Invasion , what Ur view ?

Documentaion from the acknowledged US state department information and reference for public disclosure says that





Aryan tribes from the northwest infiltrated onto the Indian subcontinent about 1500 B.C.; their merger with the earlier Dravidian inhabitants created the classical Indian culture.





It is also known - That the todays north Indians rDNA test reveal 90% relevence to Iranian rDNA.





The rDNA test also shows that most Tamils has more then 70% rDNA similarities matching with Australain abroginies.( Where the rest of the Indians have zero similarities on such matches )





CIA references :


https://www.cia.gov/library/publications...





Indo Aryan migration in world history


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Aryan_...

Indian History from the CIA Investigated informations and reference - On Aryan Invasion , what Ur view ?
Now - sincerely speaking , if you ask any dravidians in India they will agree and if you ask any aryo or syntian mixed blooded Indians hence they might not.





But no one can deny or question the concluded message by the Indian government on this in 1901 ( The Indian 1901 Census )





Original extract by Indian court.


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The Indian census report of 1901 divided the population of India into seven distinct racial types





1. the Turko-Iranian type, represented by the Baluch, Brahui and Afghans of the Baluchistan Agency and the North-West Frontier Province;





2. Indo-Aryan type, occupying the Punjab, Rajputana and Kashmir, and having as its characteristic members the Rajputs, Khatris and Jats:





3. Scytho-Dravidian type of western India, comprising the Mahrattas; the Kunbis and the Coorgs, probably formed by a mixture of Scythian and Dravidian elements;





4. Aryo-Dravidian type found in the United Provinces, in parts of Rajputana, and in Behar, represnted in the upper strata by the Hindustani Brahman (sic), and in its lower by the Chamar.This type is probably the result of intermixture, in varying proportions, of the Indo-Aryan and Dravidian types, the former element predominating in higher groups and the latter in the lower.





5. fifth type is the Mongolo-Dravidian of Bengal and Orissa, comprising the Bengal Brahmans (sic) and Kayasths, the Mahommedans of Eastern Bengal, and other groups peculiar to this part of India. It is probably a blend of Dravidian and Mongoloid elements with a strain of Indo-Aryan blood in the higher groups.





6.The sixt type is the Mongoloid of the Himalayas, Nepal, Assam and Burma, represented by the Kanets of Lahoul and Kulu, the Lephcas of Darjeeling, the Limbus, Murmis and Gurungs of Nepal, the Bodo of Assam, and the Burmese.





7. Dravidian type, extending from Ceylon to the whole of Madras and some parts of Mysore provinces. This is probably the original type of the population of India, now modified to varying extent by admixture of Aryan, Scythian and Mongoloid elements.





remember the above text is the exact dictation by the government of India.
Reply:Questionable sources and lack of analytical thinking, I will only believe what my mind ratifies not anything anyone dumps on me.





Crap belongs to trash can.
Reply:I would like to share some of my views which you might have not come across.








The original people or native of place are those who originated and live at a particular place for thousands of years and the climate, environment %26amp; flora %26amp; fauna had so much of influence/ effect/ impact on them that there appearence becomes a symbolisation of that region.





e.g. the Europeans are white skinned, having long nose, staright hair and have peculiar charachteristics which only they will be having. This is becoz the climate caused them to appear like this,.





Likewise Blacks originated in Africa and climate caused them to have curly hairs, flat nose, big lips etc.








Now it is highly unlikely to assume that the present day white skinned people of South Africa are the originals. Or the present day Austrailians who are white skinned are the natives of Austrailia.





The fact remains that ABORIGINALS who are Black coloured with curly hair,are the original people of Austrailia who dwelt there since time immemorial.





There is no chance whatsoever that you will find two different races developing in a same climate and same place. You will not find Blacks in Europe and white skinned in Africa. Nowhere.











Now come to India.











The Indian climate is very hot and suits only those with curly hair flat nose and big lips like Africans. This is a fact that these charachteristics belong to Dravidians who only originated in India and dwelt for centuries.





Any other people like Aryans, Huns, Muslims with different appearances altogether came from other part of the world.





With fair skin, long body, long nose %26amp; straight hair the Aryans were totally different from the Dravidians. This will be totally incorrect to say that these two races originated from the same region.





If so, how come both are so different ?








Had they been the originals they would have been having the same appearance as that of the Dravidians.








Hence its upto you to beleive in any one of the facts that either of the twos i.e. Aryans or Dravidians, one is not the original people.





I believe on the above scientific analyses and logic that it is the Dravidians who originated in India.








One more thing which I would like to add.





Since in Sanskrit there was no alphabet to produce the sound of 'L' the Tamils came to be known as 'Dramil' 'Dramid' and later on to 'Dravid'


........which is evident from the following SHLOKAS.......





"......DRAMIDA PURUSHA RAJAN.,,,,,,,,,,,


"DRAMIDI YOSHITAN VARA.........,


"DRAMIDE AVRITO YAYO........"--------[Mahabharat]











" ANDHRA DRAVIDADI BHASHAYAM..."----Kumaril Bhatt in his 'Tantravartik'








" DRAMIDVEDAM, DRAMIDSANGHATAM.........."------Leelatil... a Malyalam grammer Grantha.











The Aryans considered Dravidians as DASYUS, MALECHHAS, RAKSHAS, etc and were always ready to eliminate them.





Some critics believe that the great civilisations of Mohanjodaro %26amp; Hadappa were detroyed by the Aryans.








What I feel is that all must realise the fact that Dravids originated in India, but our past should not be the cause of rift amongst the people of India, be they Aryans, Dravidians or Muslims or whosoever.








India should remain ONE despite all diversity.











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Reply:As documented history suggests, there has been a lot of migration of iranic people into india(remember there was no India as such in ancient times). The old Iranian Language(Avesta) is very close to Old Sanskrit. The newer version of sanskrit had many newer words (probably from an aboriginal language in india). Another such argument is that the people in North india show characteristic of both Aryan and Dravidian (mostly Aryanic/Indo-European though), while people in Central Asia dont show dravidian characteristic at all(generally), so i see no probability that people migrated from india to other places (iran and central asia) it must have been the other way around. These are my logical answers, and what i have known so far is that the genetic evidence also shows similar results, though i still think more research needs to be done!
Reply:I don't find any of this surprising. The human diaspora began in Africa, and headed both north and east. I do not see that this is of any present-day significance, however, and it isn't at all clear why the CIA might have taken an interest in it.
Reply:Your sources are very limited.


You had the conclusion before the research. You sources have terrible record.


Remember the so called WMD in Iraq.


Wikipedia is put compiled by public, totally unreliable for research.





The Birth of a Misconception





Interest in the field of Indology during the 19th Century was of mixed motivations. Many scholars such as August Wilhelm von Schlegal, Hern Wilhelm von Humboldt, and Arthur Schopenhauer lauded praise upon the Vedic literatures and their profound wisdom, others were less than impressed. To accept that there was an advanced civilization outside the boundaries of Europe, at a time before the Patriarchs Abraham and Moses had made their covenant with the Almighty was impossible to conceive of for most European scholars, who harbored a strong Christian tendency. Most scholars of this period were neither archeologists nor historians in the strict sense of the word. Rather, they were missionaries paid by their governments to establish western cultural and racial superiority over the subjugated Indian citizens, through their study of the indigenous religious texts. Consequently, for racial, political and religious reasons, early European indologists created a myth that still survives to this day.





It was established by linguists that Sanskrit, Iranian and European languages all belonged to the same family, categorizing them as ‘Indo-European’ languages. It was assumed that all these people originated from one homeland where they spoke a common language (which they called ‘Proto-Indo-European’ or PIE) which later developed into Sanskrit, Latin, Greek etc. They then needed to ascertain where this homeland was. By pure speculation, it was proposed that this homeland was either southeast Europe or Central Asia.


Recent DNA evidence further negates the Aryan invasion theory. Dr. Subhash Kak summarizes recent research as follows:











Advances in genetics have made it possible to trace ancient migrations. It is now generally accepted that modern man arose in Africa about 200,000 years ago and from there spread first into India and Southeast Asia by coastal migration that probably included some boat crossings. There are several estimates of the time when this spread into India took place. According to the geneticist Stephen Oppenheimer, settlements in India appear about 90,000 years ago. From India there were later northeastern and northwestern migrations into Eurasia and the Far East. . .





The new findings turn on its head the previous view of the origin of Indians. The earlier view, popular in Indian history books, was that the Indian population came in two waves from the northwest around four or five thousand years ago, displacing the earlier aboriginals, descendents of regional archaic groups. . .





The new view is that subsequent to the rise of modern mankind in Africa, it found a second home in India, which is the point of migration for the populations of Europe, North Africa, China and Japan. The migrants in India slowly adapted to the wide climatic conditions in the sub-continent (from the tropical to the extreme cold of the Himalayan region) leading to the rise of the Caucasoid and the Mongoloid races. . .





When the theory of the Aryan invasions into India is replaced by an “Out of India” viewpoint, one can readily explain regularities in languages that are spread widely. Linguists see connections between India and languages that extend to distant lands. Dr. Kak’s full article may be viewed at: http://www.sulekha.com/column.asp?cid=30... .





I bet you did not read my answer fully. You have arrived at your conclusion before the question.With closed mind you can not get the facts. You are arranging facts to prove your conclusion.
Reply:It wasnt really an Invasion.
Reply:The rest have "zero similarities" ---What are you driving at. Every human on this planet is related. mDNA research back in the 80's confirmed that all humans came from one fully human female.


Maybe I missed the point of your question??
Reply:Well most European languages have sanskrit roots and theres enough evidence to support it. The migration took place from Indo-Iranian region to other places not an attack on India.





DNA of all humans matches (almost perfectly) irrespective of race, where did you get the zero match?


Please give sources for the recombinantDNA matches...


I know mtDNA (mitochondrial) differs but after 4 generations of seperation from a race theres almost no difference i.e if two races mix and the progeny keeps mating with only one race the 4th generation will have no resemblance to the race left out, needs less time if intermingling is between Caucasoids and Caucasians.. i dont think there is a zero match between human and monkey :)


One theory is that India was part of Africa and drifted towards asia as continents constantly move. That may explain formation of the long himalayan ranges..people must have moved and evolved differently in the north (skin, structure etc). You can find Indians with very similar skull structure but different skin color. Although china is very close to india they look different (compare two countries in Europe)


No one really has all the answers. Asians are closer to Europeans and skull structure of Indo-Iranians(Caucasoid) is similar to the Europeans(Caucasian).. except the skin texture.


Some Words from sanskrit are


Italy from Etaly meaning at the bottom :Italy is at the bottom of Europe


Scandinavia from Skanda+naviya meaning naval expedition : In Oaks world history and greek books there is mention of people coming to the region from the east(also lot of viking history:who travelled by water)


Ireland, Iran from Arya meaning land of Aryans


Arba from Arva


Russia from Rishiya


Australia from Astralaya


note: the meanings are the same leaving no doubt for coincidence. Also there is geographical not just linguistic connection


Deekshapal --%26gt; Disciple


Sama Nama --%26gt; Synonym


Agni --%26gt; Ignition


Spardha --%26gt; Sport


Rajyam --%26gt; Regime


Shakara --%26gt; Sugar


Hanta --%26gt; Hunt/Hunter


Prachar --%26gt; Preach


Gama --%26gt; Go


Sapta --%26gt; Seven


Dashmalava --%26gt; Decimal


Vastra --%26gt; Vesture


Shata --%26gt; Cent


Naktam --%26gt; Night


Dashak --%26gt; Decade


Shad --%26gt; Six


Gau --%26gt; Cow


Deva Nity --%26gt; Divinity


Adhik --%26gt; Add


Antral --%26gt; Entrails


Granthi --%26gt; Gland


Mallen --%26gt; Malign


Salya Jan --%26gt; Surgeon


Husband = Hust-band


Siberia = Shibiria


Austria = AStriya


Hungary = Sringery


Romania = Ramaaneeya


Denmark = Danu mark


Bulgaria = Bul Gareeya


Belgium = Balam Ajeyam


Cambodia = Kamboja


Herodotus = Hari Dootus


goes on and on








Theres special effort in Germany to preserve Sanskrit (apparently Sanskrit is closest to German). These are not new additions to sanskrit , its been the same before english and english even after borrowing so much cannot equal sanskrit.





Edit: Thanks for your information!!
Reply:Don't confuse India Indians with North American Indians. India Indians have the Iranian DNA while the North Americans have Asian DNA. I realize that you aren't but many people reading that will. But the findings are interesting. You can actually go to the National Geographic DNA migration project and have you DNA tested and tracked. It's very cool. I'm going to have it done. https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/geno...
Reply:The theory that Aryans came to India from somewhere is totally wrong, no where in any religious books nor any documents of the past there is any link or reference to outside India, It is never said that Aryans came from outside India anywhere. Whatever theory about Aryans coming from outside India is wrong.





See Gita and other holy books, even chronicles of earliest poets like Kalidasa who was more ancient than Christ, Kalidasa spoke Sanskrit, he was an aryan.





In his path-breaking book "autobiography of a yogi' Paramahansa Yogananda says that Aryans coming from outside India is false, that it is never given anywhere that aryan culture orginated anywhere else other than India.
Reply:Recorded history of hindus shows no evidence of an external invasion of iranian tribes into modern day india. On the contrary, there is ample documented evidence showing the opposite, an constant migration of people from modern day india to central asia and rest of europe. Remanants in Europe (Gypsies) are still found today.





There is also documented evidence that cultural practices were exported from India to western and central asian world. Worshipping the sun and the planets (still practiced in hinduism today) was exported to Iranians, Egyptians,Greeks and Romans. Western world used to wear togas and skirts, it was (and still are) the Dhotis that indian people wear (unlike a skirt is a division in the robe between the legs) that were exported to western world which transformed into modern day Trousers.





Aryan invasion is a myth created by Germans %26amp; british to project their superiority on the basis of racism on Indians when India was ruled by the British, and nothing more.
Reply:If the CIA is interested, then something big is up. I sense a caste system of some sorts coming from this.
Reply:Is this how Indians are - I mean, a fact is always a fact and yet they are arguing baselesly - how can this people get hired and adapt International job atmosphere - definately I wont get them.





In my history classes - it is said that India is made from the Aryan blooded community -who explored and invade the harrappa civilization hence India eventiualy. Pushing the earlier dravidian Indians further south till they all settled there.





Why are some answerers here pulling in religion and other intangible sources to this forum when the talk is based of facts and science and history. I doubt if Indians are actualy that intellectual as how they are claim to be here.

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